Anonymous on 15th November 2010, 09:22 AM
“I would ask for a Cuban perspective, but they’ve probably all been shot already.”
Yeah, by the Cuban government.
Oh, and you’re an idiot.
Anonymous on 15th November 2010, 09:31 AM
MW2: They were Russian killing Russian in Russia to frame Americans.
You have to kill them to keep your cover. It wasn’t your choice. You didn’t want to.
The game makers even made it so you could skip the scene if you found in objectionable.
Black Ops: They were Americans sent into Cuba to Kill Castro.
Show me anywhere in Black Ops were you “have” to kill civilians.
In combat there are Combatants and Non Combatants(NonComs)
The picture above shows Castro using a human shield.
You don’t have to kill her, so you take the head shot killing Castro.
Then she picks up a weapon intending to kill you, so now she is no longer a “NonCom”.
In the cantina you “can” shoot civilian in your escape, but no one is forcing you.
It’s called selective fire. Any soldier worth their salt will not shot Non Combatants.
You have no experience in the Military or Government Ops abroad, and it shows
Anonymous on 15th November 2010, 09:35 AM
It was Russian civilians you shot in modern warfare 2, if your gonna write an article get it right at least? may as well delete this whole thing and save yourself the embarrassment.
Anonymous on 15th November 2010, 09:56 AM
Oh boy did you pick the wrong axe to grind…
By your logic, you can take issue with any combat game out there. Where were you when IW and Treyarch were creating WWII games in which you had to shoot (gasp) presumably innocent Nazi grunts. I can guarantee you that the average German combatant was just as “innocent” as you are making the Cuban police and armed forces are…
You don’t have to kill any civilians in that first section of the game to proceed.
You do try to kill Castro. I guarantee you if a game gave you an opportunity to shoot Hitler, you’d take it without a seconds thought, regardless of how many “inexcusable” German casualties got in your way.
So next time you try being trendy and take issue with the establishment that us mindless, desensitized gamers seem to blindly adhere to, try THINKING through an argument first.
Oh, and there is a much more blatant example of mindless slaughter in Black Ops… Zombies are people too right?????
Axe99 on 15th November 2010, 10:24 AM
You also shoot Brits in CoD:BO - and all they could be trying to do is to stop the Russians get their hands on a WMD ;). But at the end of the day, shooting any human is inappropriate in the vast majority of situations.
You also don’t mention the VC and NVA, which were, by and large, fighting for independence. The only ‘authentic’ bad guys, even in the context of the Black Ops Story, are the Spetnaz and the Germans, and I’m sure not all of them are ‘evil’, but many are just professional soldiers doing their jobs. It’s a game, and that’s the important thing to remember. If we all take it too seriously, we’ll get PTSD!
Dirk on 15th November 2010, 10:33 AM
It’s a video game. Like it - buy it. Don’t like it - don’t buy it.
Ikaro on 15th November 2010, 01:14 PM
“Like it - buy it. Don’t like it - don’t buy it.”
is the best example of the hypocrisy of American game companies.
I really wish someone made a game that I could be a terrorist
and blow up some buildings in the United States.
Anonymous on 15th November 2010, 01:31 PM
I’ll buy that game…
Landmine on 15th November 2010, 01:39 PM
As I was reading this I realized “what? they were Russians, not Americans”. Then I read all the comments and noticed I wasn’t the only one. Mr. Connor, if this is your Job and your boss is watching, I think you’re in trouble. You picked a serious topic and you got the facts so wrong. Anyway good luck on your next story. Get the facts straight next time.
Baboon on 15th November 2010, 01:42 PM
This is the reason I won’t buy it. What’s next, a Venezuelan level because Chavez doesn’t like the States?
Joe on 15th November 2010, 03:06 PM
I agree with you, Connor. Besides the minor mistakes/typos that others can find nothing else but to nitpick with, you’re main point is true, and that is why Treyarch have done it. It’s a publicity stunt, it will generate internet debates and coverage, and it shows how disgusting US, not Cuba, is to the rest of world.
I agree! :) I was thinking, how many of the people who commented here have actually been to Cuba or Russia? Or lived through the history of those countries?
Annonimitie on 15th November 2010, 03:21 PM
whilst its true that you can hardly find a game where you kill american soldiers/civilians its also true that game industry is mostly developed for american market, sometimes for european and rarely for japan
Anonymous on 15th November 2010, 05:07 PM
Ha. When you get the basic premise of the article wrong, you know you’ve got trouble.
Minor mistakes/typos, huh? I think not.
Anonymous on 17th November 2010, 10:09 PM
Hey fellow Anons and Mr. Landmine, chill out! Since when are all the civilians at a Russia airport necessarily Russian? I think the Author of this article has a good point even though his argument did not have the facts 100% correct (but they were not wrong either). So don’t get so serious just because you guys ‘realized “what? they were Russians, not Americans”’ . Your not gonna get an award for remembering more about the games you play than Mr. Beaton remembered. Don’t be so critical, chill out!
(Oh and if you do get an award for remembering all the facts of a game then good for you! I hope it makes you proud of yourself. Also I’d like to see you guys write an article like this one.)
Anonymous on 21st November 2010, 11:03 AM
^ Except his point is rubbish. So in addition to incorrect facts, that makes this article pretty worthless and the author a moron…
False. The worth of the article would depend on the goal it was trying to achieve.
Anonymous on 13th December 2010, 07:44 AM
no point trying to argue with a yank, they’re full of bile and their own self-importance.